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	<title>Comments on: Taste Test: The Apartment (1960) vs. Jerry Maguire (1996)</title>
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		<title>By: EJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeesh -- imagine someone spending this much verbiage on garbage such as &quot;Jerry Maguire.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeesh &#8212; imagine someone spending this much verbiage on garbage such as &#8220;Jerry Maguire.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this comparison! I also wouldn&#039;t have thought to put the two together, but then I also didn&#039;t know about Wilder&#039;s influence on Crowe&#039;s production of JM (a movie which I&#039;ve seen a million times and still enjoy).

Chuck does make some good points, but I think if The Apartment were any nastier in its time, it wouldn&#039;t have been nearly as successful. As it was, it dealt with infidelity, corruption, and suicide. Like American Beauty, it turns the mirror on audiences and shows them &quot;contemporary culture&quot;, which is not say that AB is as good as The Apartment - in fact I didn&#039;t like it at all.

Anyway, at the end of the day you have to give this one to The Apartment as much for its polish and performances as its cultural legacy and its timelessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this comparison! I also wouldn&#8217;t have thought to put the two together, but then I also didn&#8217;t know about Wilder&#8217;s influence on Crowe&#8217;s production of JM (a movie which I&#8217;ve seen a million times and still enjoy).</p>
<p>Chuck does make some good points, but I think if The Apartment were any nastier in its time, it wouldn&#8217;t have been nearly as successful. As it was, it dealt with infidelity, corruption, and suicide. Like American Beauty, it turns the mirror on audiences and shows them &#8220;contemporary culture&#8221;, which is not say that AB is as good as The Apartment &#8211; in fact I didn&#8217;t like it at all.</p>
<p>Anyway, at the end of the day you have to give this one to The Apartment as much for its polish and performances as its cultural legacy and its timelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Fulwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Fulwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it says something about my dislike for Cruise that the only role of his I&#039;ve enjoyed is Les Grossman in &#039;Tropic Thunder&#039; - a corpulent, classless producer of Hollywood pabulum gleefully essayed by the man who used to be the poster boy for exactly that kind of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it says something about my dislike for Cruise that the only role of his I&#8217;ve enjoyed is Les Grossman in &#8216;Tropic Thunder&#8217; &#8211; a corpulent, classless producer of Hollywood pabulum gleefully essayed by the man who used to be the poster boy for exactly that kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But even if he has faltered with the public, Cruise’s performances in Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia warrant respect.&quot;

Oh, I completely agree.  The thing with Cruise is that he has a cocky quality that I just find very off-putting.  Yet it&#039;s that same quality that makes him so effective in the films you&#039;ve mentioned.  I liked him in &lt;i&gt;Magnolia&lt;/i&gt; especially.  His range is limited, but works in the right context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But even if he has faltered with the public, Cruise’s performances in Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia warrant respect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I completely agree.  The thing with Cruise is that he has a cocky quality that I just find very off-putting.  Yet it&#8217;s that same quality that makes him so effective in the films you&#8217;ve mentioned.  I liked him in <i>Magnolia</i> especially.  His range is limited, but works in the right context.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Valdez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Valdez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Chuck&lt;/strong&gt;: You raise some astute points, as always. I don&#039;t think Billy Wilder walked on water as you pointed out and &lt;em&gt;The Apartment&lt;/em&gt; could have been better. Its beauty still resonates with me though. Crowe -- like Tarantino -- can be a little too pleased with his writing sometimes. &lt;em&gt;Elizabethtown&lt;/em&gt; was a minor disaster. But I did like &lt;em&gt;Jerry Maguire&lt;/em&gt; a lot more than you did. It was a wonderfully executed script. What other big romantic comedies of the last 20 years can you point to that were better written? Aaron Sorkin&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The American President&lt;/em&gt; may be second, but it&#039;s a distant second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Chuck</strong>: You raise some astute points, as always. I don&#8217;t think Billy Wilder walked on water as you pointed out and <em>The Apartment</em> could have been better. Its beauty still resonates with me though. Crowe &#8212; like Tarantino &#8212; can be a little too pleased with his writing sometimes. <em>Elizabethtown</em> was a minor disaster. But I did like <em>Jerry Maguire</em> a lot more than you did. It was a wonderfully executed script. What other big romantic comedies of the last 20 years can you point to that were better written? Aaron Sorkin&#8217;s <em>The American President</em> may be second, but it&#8217;s a distant second.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t much care for most of Wilder&#039;s straight comedies, I think they&#039;re shrill and obvious and contrived (I downright hate One, Two, Three), Wilder&#039;s funnier when he&#039;s juggling other tones (Sunset Blvd, Double Indemnity, etc). I find The Apartment just ok, it coulda benefitted from being meaner and more mercinary. I don&#039;t believe the romance, and I don&#039;t find many of the jokes funny either. (MacMurray steals it.) And it&#039;s clear that Crowe has taken alot from Wilder - both of them feel too &quot;written&quot; - both filmmakers have that way of stuffing their movies with dialogue that just oh-so-cutely happens to sum everything that&#039;s going on. A moment in Jerry Maguire that drives me nuts: when Dorothy delivers that line to her son about first class flying/life. It&#039;s a decent bit on its own, but it on-the-nose labels EVERYTHING that was going on in the scene just fine previously. Elizabethtown has about 500 such lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t much care for most of Wilder&#8217;s straight comedies, I think they&#8217;re shrill and obvious and contrived (I downright hate One, Two, Three), Wilder&#8217;s funnier when he&#8217;s juggling other tones (Sunset Blvd, Double Indemnity, etc). I find The Apartment just ok, it coulda benefitted from being meaner and more mercinary. I don&#8217;t believe the romance, and I don&#8217;t find many of the jokes funny either. (MacMurray steals it.) And it&#8217;s clear that Crowe has taken alot from Wilder &#8211; both of them feel too &#8220;written&#8221; &#8211; both filmmakers have that way of stuffing their movies with dialogue that just oh-so-cutely happens to sum everything that&#8217;s going on. A moment in Jerry Maguire that drives me nuts: when Dorothy delivers that line to her son about first class flying/life. It&#8217;s a decent bit on its own, but it on-the-nose labels EVERYTHING that was going on in the scene just fine previously. Elizabethtown has about 500 such lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Valdez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Valdez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Patricia&lt;/strong&gt;: I had hoped to do more than just give Cameron Crowe his due. I think Crowe and Tarantino are the two great screenwriters working today and I&#039;d be willing to say, better writers than Wilder &amp; Diamond. &lt;em&gt;Jerry Maguire&lt;/em&gt; is funnier than &lt;em&gt;The Apartment&lt;/em&gt;, a sharper commentary than &lt;em&gt;The Apartment&lt;/em&gt; and feels more alive than &lt;em&gt;The Apartment&lt;/em&gt;. But your dissent and your thoughts are always appreciated.

&lt;strong&gt;Amanda&lt;/strong&gt;: My amateur research polling among ladies indicates that Tom Cruise soured because he started coming across in the media as contrived. But even if he has faltered with the public, Cruise&#039;s performances in &lt;em&gt;Eyes Wide Shut&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Magnolia&lt;/em&gt; warrant respect. If he died of a heart attack tomorrow, the Internet would be flooded with tributes about what a terrific, risk taking actor he was. Thanks for commenting!

&lt;strong&gt;Kelsy&lt;/strong&gt;: Other than the fact that Cameron Crowe was directly influenced by &lt;em&gt;The Apartment&lt;/em&gt; when he wrote &lt;em&gt;Jerry Maguire&lt;/em&gt;, I think both movies are about how there&#039;s more to life than success at the office. I highly recommend revisiting Wilder&#039;s work in the 1950s if you want to get your film buffery on. Thanks for chiming in.

&lt;strong&gt;Neil&lt;/strong&gt;: Thanks for finding clarity the the willy-nilly nature of my verdicts. Criminal defendants should be glad I&#039;m not a judge because my rulings would have little to do with law, likely resting  on whose story I liked better. Expect future Taste Tests to be close calls -- there&#039;s no sport in comparing &lt;em&gt;The Best Years of Our Lives&lt;/em&gt; to &lt;em&gt;Pearl Harbor&lt;/em&gt; -- that come down to which movie I would rather watch again, as opposed to x&#039;s and o&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Patricia</strong>: I had hoped to do more than just give Cameron Crowe his due. I think Crowe and Tarantino are the two great screenwriters working today and I&#8217;d be willing to say, better writers than Wilder &#038; Diamond. <em>Jerry Maguire</em> is funnier than <em>The Apartment</em>, a sharper commentary than <em>The Apartment</em> and feels more alive than <em>The Apartment</em>. But your dissent and your thoughts are always appreciated.</p>
<p><strong>Amanda</strong>: My amateur research polling among ladies indicates that Tom Cruise soured because he started coming across in the media as contrived. But even if he has faltered with the public, Cruise&#8217;s performances in <em>Eyes Wide Shut</em> and <em>Magnolia</em> warrant respect. If he died of a heart attack tomorrow, the Internet would be flooded with tributes about what a terrific, risk taking actor he was. Thanks for commenting!</p>
<p><strong>Kelsy</strong>: Other than the fact that Cameron Crowe was directly influenced by <em>The Apartment</em> when he wrote <em>Jerry Maguire</em>, I think both movies are about how there&#8217;s more to life than success at the office. I highly recommend revisiting Wilder&#8217;s work in the 1950s if you want to get your film buffery on. Thanks for chiming in.</p>
<p><strong>Neil</strong>: Thanks for finding clarity the the willy-nilly nature of my verdicts. Criminal defendants should be glad I&#8217;m not a judge because my rulings would have little to do with law, likely resting  on whose story I liked better. Expect future Taste Tests to be close calls &#8212; there&#8217;s no sport in comparing <em>The Best Years of Our Lives</em> to <em>Pearl Harbor</em> &#8212; that come down to which movie I would rather watch again, as opposed to x&#8217;s and o&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Fulwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Fulwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;m in complete agreement that &#039;The Apartment&#039; is the superior film (I personally find &#039;Jerry Maguire&#039; highly overrated and would put &#039;Almost Famous&#039; and even &#039;Elizabethtown&#039; above it if I were picking a Cameron Crowe DVD to settle down with this evening), may I ask, Joe, how you&#039;re deciding on the winner in these articles?

The structure you&#039;re using suggests that the winner is based on the categories delineated for purpose of comparison. However, the two films emerge as evenly matched in casting and cultural impact, while &#039;Jerry Maguire&#039; gets the vote for writing and music, and &#039;The Apartment&#039; takes the gold in only one category - production values. Therefore, isn&#039;t it actually &#039;Jerry Maguire&#039; that should be declared the champ?

I went back and applied this theory to the &#039;Rosemary&#039;s Baby&#039;/&#039;Exorcist&#039; article and using these parameters the films emerge as evenly matched.

Or is the winner based simply on your personal response the film, a tacit acknowledgement that however effective the component parts of a movie may be, it&#039;s whether said movie strikes a chord with you that matters most?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m in complete agreement that &#8216;The Apartment&#8217; is the superior film (I personally find &#8216;Jerry Maguire&#8217; highly overrated and would put &#8216;Almost Famous&#8217; and even &#8216;Elizabethtown&#8217; above it if I were picking a Cameron Crowe DVD to settle down with this evening), may I ask, Joe, how you&#8217;re deciding on the winner in these articles?</p>
<p>The structure you&#8217;re using suggests that the winner is based on the categories delineated for purpose of comparison. However, the two films emerge as evenly matched in casting and cultural impact, while &#8216;Jerry Maguire&#8217; gets the vote for writing and music, and &#8216;The Apartment&#8217; takes the gold in only one category &#8211; production values. Therefore, isn&#8217;t it actually &#8216;Jerry Maguire&#8217; that should be declared the champ?</p>
<p>I went back and applied this theory to the &#8216;Rosemary&#8217;s Baby&#8217;/'Exorcist&#8217; article and using these parameters the films emerge as evenly matched.</p>
<p>Or is the winner based simply on your personal response the film, a tacit acknowledgement that however effective the component parts of a movie may be, it&#8217;s whether said movie strikes a chord with you that matters most?</p>
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		<title>By: kelsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably would have never associated these two movies together, but they are both romances tinged by loneliness and awkward circumstances.

I&#039;d have to rewatch these to really know which one I prefer, but I&#039;d say Jerry McGuire is a good one to just watch chunks of on cable TV, while The Apartment feels more like a film you have to watch as a whole. Then again, I&#039;ve probably only seen each of these movies once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably would have never associated these two movies together, but they are both romances tinged by loneliness and awkward circumstances.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to rewatch these to really know which one I prefer, but I&#8217;d say Jerry McGuire is a good one to just watch chunks of on cable TV, while The Apartment feels more like a film you have to watch as a whole. Then again, I&#8217;ve probably only seen each of these movies once.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually never seen &lt;i&gt;Jerry Maguire&lt;/i&gt;, so it&#039;s hard to compare.  All I can remember is the immense hype it got and how disinterested it made me.  I think by then I had also soured on Tom Cruise.  I&#039;ve just avoided it since.

But I love &lt;i&gt;The Apartment&lt;/i&gt;.  You&#039;re right, it&#039;s beautifully filmed and has plenty of Wilder&#039;s dark wit and moral quandaries.  I love Jack Lemmon (especially with Wilder) and Shirley Maclaine&#039;s films from that era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually never seen <i>Jerry Maguire</i>, so it&#8217;s hard to compare.  All I can remember is the immense hype it got and how disinterested it made me.  I think by then I had also soured on Tom Cruise.  I&#8217;ve just avoided it since.</p>
<p>But I love <i>The Apartment</i>.  You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s beautifully filmed and has plenty of Wilder&#8217;s dark wit and moral quandaries.  I love Jack Lemmon (especially with Wilder) and Shirley Maclaine&#8217;s films from that era.</p>
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